Auction firm refuses to bid on job

These people are turning into bullies.

Jeff Peters was a teacher of the Agricultural Science program at Sydenham High. Nice guy and down to earth....... not surprising it would take 5 fat cops to bring down a 5'4" farmer.

YES! Save our Prison Farms - You Rock! Keep the pressure on and keep it going.

I spoke on the phone the evening of the July 21st get together, to one of the primary organizers of this group as I was trying to secure a ride. Due to severe time constraints I was, unfortunately, unsuccessful and hope that there will be carpooling planned for future events. What was very interesting was that, during a very short conversation I learned that the phones were "ringing off the hook" and that a lot of the people contacting this group were older individuals very much aware of the bigger picture and what else is at stake here. These people are people are afraid for their country, and the way things are going they SHOULD be. On a related note, I also learned that one protester at the G20 Summit was arrested for wearing a costume (clown costume. This person was arrested for "concealing his/her identify".

We, as citizens, are not being consulted about what directly effects us and are heading further and further down a slippery slope, and tThis is just the tip of the iceberg. For further information on planned events, visit the Save Our Prison Farms website. The people are finally rallying, let's make sure it continues.

Citing a previous post in one of the prison farms articles - "Power to the People"!

@bullblaster. Crap, I hit the wrong "thumb" button - that should have been a "thumbs down" LOL. Wish there was some way to retract.....

callitaslseeit, what are you talking about with the thumbs up or down stuff?

@puppy131312 The thumbs up or down "vote" at the bottom right hand corner in each posting. Great - Thumbs Up, Horrible - Thumbs Down. I hit the wrong fricking button.

your my hero.....gimmie a break.....what a joke all you people are......get off social assistance and get a job....maybe than you wouldnt have all day to stand around protesting for rapists and murderers.......

I think what these "do gooders" are forgetting is that people who are in federal prisions are career criminals and are serving long sentences for serious crimes. Perhaps before they sit and cheer on these wanna be farmers....they should have to sit and listen to their "resume" I mean criminal record and the details of each and every one of their crimes....oh yeah...they would say that these poor fellas were "wrongly convicted"

Howi - something that comes to mind when you say that you see no farmers there. Why would there be? If I was a farmer, why wouldn't I be for the closing of the farm...It may boost my sales(for lack of better term)to not have more competition.

The Service should set a corporate objective of employing not less than 20% of inmates in prison industries and farms. Transition programs and support services Skill development and experience will not go far if the released offender cannot overcome barriers to finding jobs. The labour market can be confusing and even frightening for someone with little experience. We must, therefore, provide support services (where required) to help offenders successfully re-enter society A final thought ... Prison work is at a watershed. Some very compelling research has given us the unique opportunity to rethink the role of work inside our institutions. Offender work has the potential to be revitalized and repositioned as a valued form of correctional intervention.
Copied and pasted from CRC's website.

@Howitzer Quoting Abraham Lincoln "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

To the protesters, YOU ROCK! Keep exercising your constitutional rights while you still can. It is good to see this issue continues to be challenged.

By the people, for the people, right?

A wimp and a Bully and a criminal????? The guy is NONE of the above! You just don't understand someone who wants "To Do the Right Thing"!!!

Can conservative NOT tell the truth! The have been lying so long to get their way that can do nothing else! HARPer is an Economist but is against census data? That is like saying it's going to be a foot of snow today in Kingston (Either of them)! The farms can't make money with No Tax , free land and free labor??? What a load of manure! This is why HARPer wants to hide with giving the information people are asking!

University of Victoria has shown that "similar" inmates that go through these programs are 50% less likely to re offend!

Newsjunky and HOWEEE and Bullspreader are lying through through their TOOTH!

Ladoodoo and dodoman you have to be a low risk offender and model inmate to work the farms! By saying those lies you could end up in court yourself!

Lying? How do you propose one gets themselves sentenced to federal penitentiary? We read daily about the "light" sentences that Masse issues, 30 days here 30 days there and house arrest bla bla bla. So how does one get to the big house? I would guess it is because the did some pretty serious sh--. Perhaps these protesters could hear from some of tie victims or their families to see if they support the murderer, sexual abuser, serial break and enter artist, local drug supplier to see if they want the offenders to farm so they can "get better"

A model inmate...please! What else do you expect them to say and do....I will be good and I will milk cows, please let me out of my cell, I will be good. Come on wake up, that is why they are called cons.

Well "callitasIseeit", you opened your mouth and removed all doubt for all of us. Farm closures are a cost cutting measure, it lessens staff, equipment, buildings, material costs, etc.. If this was a private business cutting costs, no one would care less, let alone protest. It's much to do about nothing and a worthless reason to protest.

and as if the closure of 6 farms across the whole country is going to have any impact!!! lol - what a bunch of ignorant, empty-headed lefty fruitcakes - all they want to do is protest against Harper - for anything! lol - total ignoranus'!!

@ xfirefighter In your opinion! But then you don't seem to be able to see the "bigger picture" and/or haven't been following some of the excellent posts in regards to these so called "cost cutting measures". Not to mention being an excellent program, the meat and egg products used to feed the inmates and which will be lost through the closures of these prison farms will have to be made up in some other way. As a taxpayer, you will be paying for it one way or the other - either through keeping the prison farms who provide these products to feed the inmates or through the purchase of these products from private sources. Which method do YOU think will be more cost-effective?

@wandering. Yours is undoubtedly the best post I have seen in this thread, but it appears to have been completely ignored. I wonder why that might be?

"The Service should set a corporate objective of employing not less than 20% of inmates in prison industries and farms. Transition programs and support services Skill development and experience will not go far if the released offender cannot overcome barriers to finding jobs. The labour market can be confusing and even frightening for someone with little experience. We must, therefore, provide support services (where required) to help offenders successfully re-enter society A final thought ... Prison work is at a watershed. Some very compelling research has given us the unique opportunity to rethink the role of work inside our institutions. Offender work has the potential to be revitalized and repositioned as a valued form of correctional intervention."
Copied and pasted from CRC's website.

How can anyone oppose a program that puts inmates to work instead of leaving them idling in a cell, comparing notes on how to do crime? I don't get it. That the program actually produces tons of free food for the prison system and food banks makes it a no-brainer to me. I'd say we need more of this, not less. Get them learning welding and plumbing and masonary... all the trades that are so short of people these days. Shutting it down is nothing more than a political stunt so Harper can say how hard he is on the 'evil' and 'bad' people of Canada.

WORK LOCAL, FEED LOCAL, EAT LOCAL...HOW MUCH MORE LOCAL IS THIS.. don't forget about earning your keep...farmers have been earning a living for years, and we have been eating for years....this isn't about Inmates this is about great use of land, earning a living (both for inmates and the farm staff) this is about keeping that land viable and not full of bricks and mortar, its about "not in my backyard...you didn't want the 1/2 way house one POrtsmouth do you want the super jail on Bath Road or grazing cattle and lush fields to keep the smog down in our community

I have a GOOD idea.......lets close the prison farms...the Libs will make some money to pay for themselves a raise, pay for some of their programs, the HST will help a lot of raising income as well (next election, they can say we have this much money, money we will use to get re-elected). Just like a certain mayor.
We can have some nice condos there, perhaps some low income, a few daycares, a few nursing homes. The low risk inmates can visit these daycares and nursing homes, have coffee with condo owners and low income.

And all the money, everyone makes- fright from sale to the electrian- whose boss is related to the top guy, or gives cash to someone's re-election. As Homestead did for Harvey Rosen.

I've read the posts, "callit". The bigger picture? Unless you have the financial books, analyse costs and look at the impact of new jobs and money into the local economy, YOU don't HAVE the bigger picture. On the surface the government is making the better move. Training the cons will cost the same regardless of what the job training is about.