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Posted By PETER HENDRA, THE WHIG-STANDARD

Posted 1 month ago

Ontario provincial police and the provincial transportation ministry met Monday in an effort to iron out some of the traffic problems that arose when Hwy. 401 had to be closed two weeks ago following a fatal, early morning accident.

"There are protocols set in place," OPP Sgt. Kristine Rae said Tuesday.

"What we're trying to do is define or refine what those were in communications between the different agencies that would have to become involved."

Traffic rerouted from the highway -- closed July 8 after a transport truck crashed and caught fire, killing its driver -- caused traffic jams throughout the city. Parts of downtown were gridlocked for hours as drivers ignored emergency detour routes or, in one case, followed a sign that pointed them back into the city's core.

"The MTO are the ones that assist us in closing the road, so that communication goes on all the time when a highway's closed," Rae said, "but it's getting the communication down to the agencies that assist that may not be as fine tuned."

She did not specify which agencies those were.

While investigating the accident was the OPP's top priority, the inconvenience caused by closing the highway was also a concern.

"Trying to get traffic moving and flowing through around those detours is very important, too," she said, "and hopefully with that meeting yesterday we've kind of fixed a couple of those issues."

Regardless, accidents will always happen and delays are unavoidable, Rae said.

"The other thing people have to remember, too, is that if the highway's closed, it's going to be congested," she said.

"There's nothing you can do about that when you're taking four or six lanes of highway onto a roadway. It's going to be slow, it's going to be congested, but you need to be patient."

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"with that meeting yesterday we've kind of fixed a couple of those issues."
What issues were fixed?

Post #1 By brianb, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Yep, the traffic is lots of fun for a breast feeding mother who just went out to run an erron and can't get home to her hungry baby.
Or having a job interview and no cell.
Or running out of gas, with small children. thats a blast

Post #2 By canadian33, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Better than being dead!! Fatal accidents take a long time to investigate. Lawsuits and insurance claims go on for years, the families of the deceased want answers. People can be very self centered. Big deal, a few hours of their life stuck in traffic, people that live in big cities deal with this all of the time. Grow up people.

Post #3 By newsjunkie1, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Yes, canadian33, I can see how people dying would be a terrible inconvenience to these people. Although I would argue that unless you were stuck in traffic between 6:30 and 7:00am, there is no excuse since I heard about it on the radio every 5 - 10 minutes after that, including which streets were the most congested.

Post #4 By annoyedmoderate, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Newsjunkie is right. Brianb appreciate your question but lets be honest here. This is the Whig reporting. do you relly think they're smart enough or interested enough to ask real questions?

Post #5 By hrrrph, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Maybe OPP and MTO should put their two cents worth in to get the 3rd crossing built. That would have helped with the downtown gridlock at least.

Post #6 By k7k6c7, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Agreed with newsjunkie and annoyedmoderate. Traffic is annoying, but losing a family member is devastating. My heart goes out to them.

As for the 3rd crossing (Gore Road to Rideau/Cataraqui St?) It's soon time. I ride my bicycle to avoid summer traffic around Wellington/Barrack/Queen but it occurred to me as I was going over the causeway that if there was a need for an ambulance from the suburbs off HWY 15, how would the ambulance get into the city if the causeway and whole downtown core is blocked, while Kingston Mills Road, Unity Road and others are also just as congested? I say yes, it's time for a third crossing that's for light vehicles/emergency vehicles only.

Post #7 By just_the_facts_please, 1 month ago | 1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

START FINING PEOPLE WHO DO NOT OBEY DETOURS WHEN MISHAPS LIKE THIS HAPPEN.THESE PEOPLE REALLY DO NOT REALIZE THE PROBLEMS THEY CAUSE BY NOT OBEYING DETOURS.HIT PEOPLE WHERE IT HURTS IN THE WALLET.

Post #8 By THEMATADOOR, 1 month ago | -1 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Nice thought thematadoor....but what no one published was how much money this made for downtown restaurants....bet lots of people made unscedulled stops to our downtown....the retailers downtown would probably oppose your idea

Post #9 By newsjunkie1, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

PROBALY NOT ALOT THESE PEOPLE JUST WANTED TO GET BACK ON THE 401 HWY.I WAS DOWN THERE THAT DAY DID NOT SEE ALOT OF TRANSPORTS PARKED SHOPPING OR EATING JUST ONE BIG CONJESTED TRAFFIC MESS AND ALOT OF THEM DID NOT KNOW WHERE THEY WERE.IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY COMMICAL

Post #10 By THEMATADOOR, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Harvey Rosen says as long as he is Mayor there will never be a third crossing, what is there is good enough.

Post #11 By citymess, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

ISSUES FIXED....the chief takes no sugar, the sarge takes black coffee, the one lady for MTO likes chocolate donuts, the other lady drinks tea and a fruit muffin, the little guy from MTO had a gay night, the "johnny Fever" look-a-like from Transport is hung over.
And they found out where the 401 is on the map. That wrestling is on at 7 pm, the woman walking up the street is a male hooker.

Post #12 By tinasouth, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

citymess: Rosen ran for mayor the last time with the third crossing #1 on his list of priorities. So much for Rosen's integrity

Post #13 By brianb, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

jerkoff. of course being stuck in traffic is better than being dead. duh.
my condolances to their family.
"don't judge until you've walked in someone elses shoes"

Post #14 By canadian33, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

its junkie...not jerkoff by the way!!! ;)

Post #15 By newsjunkie1, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Personally I think that if the 401 is backed up because of an accident the drivers shouldn't be allowed to cut through the city unless they live here. Only Kingston residents should be allowed to get off the highway, the non-residents can wait until the accident is cleared. That would solve the congestion problem. Too easy.

Post #16 By : Harry Sphincter, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

just_the_facts_please totally agree that there was no way an emergency vehicle was ever going to get through on the causeway....just like Sunday night when the fire broke out in the marina, the Emergency Fire Rescue boat couldn't get through because the bridge operator was on break and nobody to lift it...why doesn't the media report this to the public?

Post #17 By timbit2, 1 month ago | 0 Votes | Vote: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down
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